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	<title>Comments on: Labs Preview: jQuery UI Photoviewer</title>
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	<description>Jörn Zaefferer on Bass, Geeks and Rock'n'Roll</description>
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		<title>By: Lauri Suoperä</title>
		<link>http://bassistance.de/2009/06/02/labs-preview-jquery-ui-photoviewer/comment-page-1/#comment-168980</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauri Suoperä</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but the biggest problem with this solution is the mousewheel. it was the first problem I ran into and it&#039;s pretty bad, imo. I was using the site with a 1280x800 screen resolution and as you probably know, that doesn&#039;t leave me much of screen estate. Now imagine me clicking one of the photos that wasn&#039;t completely in view. This opens the image in that current scrollable element and then proceeds to hijack the mousewheel control instead of letting me scroll up so that I can see the whole image. 

Lightbox/whatever would&#039;ve centered the image on the screen, so in that sense this is far far less ideal solution. 

I understand wanting to make this easier to use, but people aren&#039;t used to using mousewheel or keys like that... and it goes against all of that they&#039;ve learned in the past (mousewheel scrolls the page).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but the biggest problem with this solution is the mousewheel. it was the first problem I ran into and it&#8217;s pretty bad, imo. I was using the site with a 1280&#215;800 screen resolution and as you probably know, that doesn&#8217;t leave me much of screen estate. Now imagine me clicking one of the photos that wasn&#8217;t completely in view. This opens the image in that current scrollable element and then proceeds to hijack the mousewheel control instead of letting me scroll up so that I can see the whole image. </p>
<p>Lightbox/whatever would&#8217;ve centered the image on the screen, so in that sense this is far far less ideal solution. </p>
<p>I understand wanting to make this easier to use, but people aren&#8217;t used to using mousewheel or keys like that&#8230; and it goes against all of that they&#8217;ve learned in the past (mousewheel scrolls the page).</p>
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		<title>By: Jörn</title>
		<link>http://bassistance.de/2009/06/02/labs-preview-jquery-ui-photoviewer/comment-page-1/#comment-167675</link>
		<dc:creator>Jörn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Janis,

I&#039;ve worked with Fancybox and wasn&#039;t happy with a lot of the details. The image-based shadow produces too many http requests; the click-on-image navigation doesn&#039;t work well when a gallery contains images of different sizes (the hitbox for the next image is always at a different position), the fade-to-white-to-next transition is annoying. No builtin mousewheel support (the easiest thing to fix). I don&#039;t need other content then images for a photoviewer.

All in all enough reasons for a new project, right? Also gave me the chance to experiment with alternative navigation schemes (more ideas in the pipe) as well as using Canvas for shadow rendering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Janis,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked with Fancybox and wasn&#8217;t happy with a lot of the details. The image-based shadow produces too many http requests; the click-on-image navigation doesn&#8217;t work well when a gallery contains images of different sizes (the hitbox for the next image is always at a different position), the fade-to-white-to-next transition is annoying. No builtin mousewheel support (the easiest thing to fix). I don&#8217;t need other content then images for a photoviewer.</p>
<p>All in all enough reasons for a new project, right? Also gave me the chance to experiment with alternative navigation schemes (more ideas in the pipe) as well as using Canvas for shadow rendering.</p>
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		<title>By: Janis Skarnelis</title>
		<link>http://bassistance.de/2009/06/02/labs-preview-jquery-ui-photoviewer/comment-page-1/#comment-167673</link>
		<dc:creator>Janis Skarnelis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder, why You have made FancyBox (http://fancy.klade.lv/) clone ? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder, why You have made FancyBox (<a href="http://fancy.klade.lv/" rel="nofollow">http://fancy.klade.lv/</a>) clone ? <img src='http://bassistance.de/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Wolf</title>
		<link>http://bassistance.de/2009/06/02/labs-preview-jquery-ui-photoviewer/comment-page-1/#comment-167451</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 08:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jörn,

I really like it! Navigation with keyboard and the mouse wheel support is really a plus, but having some visible UI navigation controls which are displayed when the mouse is over the image would help a lot to have a self explaining UI.

Thanks for your efforts
Patrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jörn,</p>
<p>I really like it! Navigation with keyboard and the mouse wheel support is really a plus, but having some visible UI navigation controls which are displayed when the mouse is over the image would help a lot to have a self explaining UI.</p>
<p>Thanks for your efforts<br />
Patrick</p>
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		<title>By: Fahed</title>
		<link>http://bassistance.de/2009/06/02/labs-preview-jquery-ui-photoviewer/comment-page-1/#comment-167415</link>
		<dc:creator>Fahed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There is actually a tooltip on both the overlay and the image itself with usage instructions. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
A good UI shouldn&#039;t need instructions.

However you do it, you definitely need a visually obvious &quot;next/previous&quot; option.

Meanwhile, well done for keeping it so light!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There is actually a tooltip on both the overlay and the image itself with usage instructions. </p></blockquote>
<p>A good UI shouldn&#8217;t need instructions.</p>
<p>However you do it, you definitely need a visually obvious &#8220;next/previous&#8221; option.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, well done for keeping it so light!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Irish</title>
		<link>http://bassistance.de/2009/06/02/labs-preview-jquery-ui-photoviewer/comment-page-1/#comment-167408</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Irish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very classy. Good call on using canvas. One feature I&#039;d demand of this would be the transfer effect we see in fancyzoom.

The interaction style that Harald put into &lt;a href=&quot;http://digitarald.de/project/remooz/1-0/showcase/flickr-stream/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Remooz&lt;/a&gt; is spot-on. Especially the zoom in/out cursors, placement of loading spinner, and zoom effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very classy. Good call on using canvas. One feature I&#8217;d demand of this would be the transfer effect we see in fancyzoom.</p>
<p>The interaction style that Harald put into <a href="http://digitarald.de/project/remooz/1-0/showcase/flickr-stream/" rel="nofollow">Remooz</a> is spot-on. Especially the zoom in/out cursors, placement of loading spinner, and zoom effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Jörn</title>
		<link>http://bassistance.de/2009/06/02/labs-preview-jquery-ui-photoviewer/comment-page-1/#comment-167400</link>
		<dc:creator>Jörn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dan and Paul: I&#039;d like to keep the interface as light as possible; currently its probably too light.

There is actually a tooltip on both the overlay and the image itself with usage instructions. A developer looking at the plugin doesn&#039;t notice that, a normal user of the plugin may have better odds. Anyway, that needs some more testing and experimentation.

I&#039;ve thought about a fixed navigation element, eg. in the lower right corner, with next/prev buttons and a close button. Maybe half transparent unless hovered, again with tooltips mentioning the mousewheel/cursor alternatives. That would still be much better then the always moving navigation elements that similar implemenations use. If any, then at a fixed position.

@Diego: Thanks for the reference. I really like to highlight/zoom effect when opening/closing the viewer. I&#039;ve actually experimented with that already, but gave up due to conflicts with the current resizing method. Need to investigate that some more.

I like the hover-icon of the fullsize images, though a magnifier icon would probably be a better choice. There also no point in having to click the icon, instead of using the full thumbnail as a click target (no progressive enhancement either).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dan and Paul: I&#8217;d like to keep the interface as light as possible; currently its probably too light.</p>
<p>There is actually a tooltip on both the overlay and the image itself with usage instructions. A developer looking at the plugin doesn&#8217;t notice that, a normal user of the plugin may have better odds. Anyway, that needs some more testing and experimentation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve thought about a fixed navigation element, eg. in the lower right corner, with next/prev buttons and a close button. Maybe half transparent unless hovered, again with tooltips mentioning the mousewheel/cursor alternatives. That would still be much better then the always moving navigation elements that similar implemenations use. If any, then at a fixed position.</p>
<p>@Diego: Thanks for the reference. I really like to highlight/zoom effect when opening/closing the viewer. I&#8217;ve actually experimented with that already, but gave up due to conflicts with the current resizing method. Need to investigate that some more.</p>
<p>I like the hover-icon of the fullsize images, though a magnifier icon would probably be a better choice. There also no point in having to click the icon, instead of using the full thumbnail as a click target (no progressive enhancement either).</p>
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		<title>By: Paul McLanahan</title>
		<link>http://bassistance.de/2009/06/02/labs-preview-jquery-ui-photoviewer/comment-page-1/#comment-167399</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul McLanahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work! I like the transitions. I don&#039;t see the next/previous buttons mentioned in the instructions, but the arrow keys work fine. It would definitely require some instruction on the page to make users realize that the arrow keys or scroll wheel will work for this purpose, but I like the idea because 1) it&#039;s a nice way to navigate, and 2) it prevents people from scrolling the page behind the overlay unless they really mean to, which was always visually strange for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work! I like the transitions. I don&#8217;t see the next/previous buttons mentioned in the instructions, but the arrow keys work fine. It would definitely require some instruction on the page to make users realize that the arrow keys or scroll wheel will work for this purpose, but I like the idea because 1) it&#8217;s a nice way to navigate, and 2) it prevents people from scrolling the page behind the overlay unless they really mean to, which was always visually strange for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Diego Plentz</title>
		<link>http://bassistance.de/2009/06/02/labs-preview-jquery-ui-photoviewer/comment-page-1/#comment-167398</link>
		<dc:creator>Diego Plentz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jörn, GREAT! I always prefer tu use the built-in plugins over a third party one. I looking for something like that and found some cool samples:

http://www.nixboxdesigns.com/demos/jquery-image-flyout.php
http://orderedlist.com/demos/fancy-zoom-jquery/
http://www.dfc-e.com/metiers/multimedia/opensource/jquery-fancyzoom/

and my favorite:
http://www.addfullsize.com/

addfullsize is my favorite mainly because of the markut. I _really_ like the approach of using the traditional img tag, but with the &quot;new&quot; attribute fullsize, wich is very handy.

Btw, great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jörn, GREAT! I always prefer tu use the built-in plugins over a third party one. I looking for something like that and found some cool samples:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nixboxdesigns.com/demos/jquery-image-flyout.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.nixboxdesigns.com/demos/jquery-image-flyout.php</a><br />
<a href="http://orderedlist.com/demos/fancy-zoom-jquery/" rel="nofollow">http://orderedlist.com/demos/fancy-zoom-jquery/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.dfc-e.com/metiers/multimedia/opensource/jquery-fancyzoom/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dfc-e.com/metiers/multimedia/opensource/jquery-fancyzoom/</a></p>
<p>and my favorite:<br />
<a href="http://www.addfullsize.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.addfullsize.com/</a></p>
<p>addfullsize is my favorite mainly because of the markut. I _really_ like the approach of using the traditional img tag, but with the &#8220;new&#8221; attribute fullsize, wich is very handy.</p>
<p>Btw, great work!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan G. Switzer, II</title>
		<link>http://bassistance.de/2009/06/02/labs-preview-jquery-ui-photoviewer/comment-page-1/#comment-167396</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan G. Switzer, II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking good! However, I&#039;m not sure the mousewheel navigation is going to be intuitive to most users--I think expectations is that they see some kind of Next/Previous links. 

Even when I initially looked at the demo I thought there was no navigation between images when I saw no Next/Previous buttons. It wasn&#039;t until reading the features that I saw that the mousewheel works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking good! However, I&#8217;m not sure the mousewheel navigation is going to be intuitive to most users&#8211;I think expectations is that they see some kind of Next/Previous links. </p>
<p>Even when I initially looked at the demo I thought there was no navigation between images when I saw no Next/Previous buttons. It wasn&#8217;t until reading the features that I saw that the mousewheel works.</p>
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